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buried for the last four years during which president obama was in the white house while campaigning in iowa. paul ryan did not miss the opportunity to seize on biden's choice of words. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. of course the middle class has been buried. they're being buried by regulations. they're being buried by taxes. they're being buried by borrowing. they're being buried by the obama administration's economic failures. >> the romney campaign also chimed in on twitter writing agree with joe biden. the middle class has been buried the last four years which is why we need a change in november, #can'tafford4more. >>> later that today in asheville, north carolina vice president biden clarified that the middle class was buried by the policies that romney and ryan supported. see if you're convinced by that recovery. >>> also yesterday, a video was relesioned by the daily caller, featuring then senator barack obama speaking to a group of african-american religious leaders in 2007. they are b
class that has been buried the last four years. >> reporter: republicans jumped on that, buried by obama? >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. that means we need to stop digging by electing mitt romney the next president of theitis. >> reporter: that's the kind of zinger sure to be heard at debate number one. i'm steve handelsman, nbc news, denver, colorado. >> and of course we'll have complete all-day coverage leading up to tonight's first 2012 presidential debate and then be sure to stay tuned for the main event, that starts at 9:00 p.m. eastern time right here on msnbc, the place for politics. >>> last night on "the ed show" president obama's senior campaign adviser, robert gibbs, describes what he hopes to hear at tonight's presidential debate. take a listen. >> i hope the moderator gives governor romney a chance to do what paul ryan said he didn't have time to do and that is explain how they pay for a $5 trillion tax cut. as you pointed out, ed, it is a time problem that is vexing in this budget. it
into the morning on "fox and friends". >> we watched president obama for 3 hchl years. i don't think he's governed in a race this way at all. i think that was going to be an issue. should have been an issue in '08. does anyone think president obama is more towards one race? i don't think so. >> roger rails would like to see you in his office. joining us right now, let's get to our panel here in denver, mike shira, "time" magazine, white house correspondent, who has the cover story in this week's issue. john harwood, cnbc chief white house correspondent, and holding it down in new york city, msnbc political analyst karen finney. john, are you there in the spin room. as you know, the spinning begins before either candidate has spoken. we've seen both parties attempt to deflate expectations. but isn't the biggest challenge for mitt romney, not what he plans to say tonight, but how he explains what he's already said, in particular, his derision for 47% of the people in this country? >> reporter: certainly, martin, he's going to have to address that and try to diffuse that issue. look, this is an incre
another etch-a-sketch moment. mitt romney now says he won't revoke obama's two-year visas for qualified young illegal immigrants. well, maybe he's seen the polling on latinos lately which are devastating. >>> let me finish with a behind the scenes look at what really happened at the great kennedy/nixon debates. you will love these stories i have dug up. this is "hardball," the place for politics. and cheese add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. [ male announcer ] how do you make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. >>> roun brown's in the national journal wrote the main reason oen is doing better in battleground zats has to do with his increase from white working women. keep in mind, back in 2008 nationally obama only got 41% of
really well and make your point years ago. just go with that. >> that is first lady michelle obama and ann romney offering their advice to their husbands. president obama heads to colorado today. mitt romney has been here since monday night. with me now is former colorado governor billowens. the second of three colorado governors i have on my show today. let me start with the same question i asked governor hickenlooper. why is colorado a swing state? what do you tell friends and families and colleagues when they ask what makes colorado such a right down the middle state? >> it is one of the best educated states in the country in terms of college graduates it is the best educated state in the country. we really are a microcosm of the country. a lot of coloradoens came from other states. and so it's a nice place to battle out the country's elections. and as you probably pointed out earlier we have gone all sorts of ways in presidential elections. we have elected democratic governors. i think the coloradoens take a look at the candidate and vote for the person they think will do the b
voted for president obama last year may have said it best. >> i felt like governor romney stepped up his game in terms of bringing something new to this campaign. >> reporter: we had a diverse group, a few new to politics, some swing voters, age 57 to 17. all relieved to hear directly from the two candidates instead of all the negative ads bombarding the state. how many of you saw something in governor romney you had not seen before? >> ultimately i think he was very compassionate and he seemed like his policies were actually sensible. >> if you notice, there's a four-step plan. this is one, two, three, four. he's very clear in talking to us. >> reporter: despite all of that, for some president obama still won the night because he came across as the person they could relate to. >> i feel like i want a president i can connect with. he looked to the camera and addressed us. and mitt romney did not do that. >> i like how obama talked about the middle class. i personally don't know any millionaires and there's a lot more of us in the middle class. >> reporter: the two latina women said they
debate. the first time president obama and mitt romney have met in person in five years. tonight of course, they will share the stage in denver. a coin toss decided the order. president obama speaks first, mitt romney will have the last word. romney ran the gauntlet during the primary. he did 23 debates. the president has practiced five mock debates before tonight and it's not too late to convince voters, there's a new poll, florida and virginia virtually tied. in ohio, the president has a comfortable seven-point lead. last night, conservatives started circulating this video. a 2007 speech that then senator obama gave at hampton university, criticizing the federal response to hurricane katrina. >> people ask me whether they thought race was the reason the response was so slow. well, no, this information was color blind in its incompetence. >> in north carolina, joe biden went off script and said the middle class has been buried the last four years. this morning, they've turned a clip into a web video. >> the middle class in america is hurting. >> middle class has been buried the
preparation for general election this year. anyway, in swing states the obama campaign has bombarded voters, as you said, with this powerful ad going after romney for his 47% putdown. let's take a look. >> 47% of the americans who vote for the president who are dependent, who believe they're victims, who believe the government has to care for them, who believes they're entitled to health care, food, housing, you name it, and they will vote for this president no matter what. so my job is not to worry about those -- i'll never take care of them. they should take care responsibility and take care of themselves. >> you look at this analytical, only three or four breaks, romney would be ahead right now, breaks going to obama's side. the romney performance overseas when he blew that thing with cameron. the masterful performance by bill clinton where he reset the clock on the economy. of course, this 47%. these breaks have been going toward obama, haven't they? i mean, i can't think the last time romney got a break. >> reporter: no, really not since -- you have to go back, i would say, to may or j
night. i can't think of a debate in the 20 years covering this where the gap between the two candidates was this wide. mitt romney turned in a strong performance and the president turned in an uneven performance. the disparity led to a perception that president obama lost the debate. if you look at the commentary, not from the right, but people who love barack obama, almost every one of them, every pundit was saying that he lost. some saying he lost decisively. some saying he lost so badly, it could cost him the election. to me, it's hyperbolic. it speaks to the fact mitt romney changed the narrative of the campaign. >> what does it mean, jim, for mitt romney. if we accept he won the night last night, how does he make it about more than one night and a turning point in the campaign? >> i can't emphasize how big last night was for mitt romney. you have to view it from the mitt romney that came into the debate. conservatives were down on him. his staff were down on him. donors were reluctant to give money to him. most thought he had no opportunity to win the race. he comes out of the deba
that are not going to work that fit with the narrative that we've had for years that obama is strong. >> can i grant you that and ask, what about the debate? a debate on foreign policy that will bring these issues into the forefront. >> i would love to see obama who really knows these issues from a firsthand fingerprints on the documents way, versus romney who has been multiple choice and really has no foreign policy background at all. >> as you were saying at the beginning, s.e., a case to be made for going into either of these directions, either embracing the foreign policy criticism, going at it hard, trying to use that as a broader frame to say the president is ineffective, or sticking with the economy. i think either decision has a rationale behind it. what struck me as you have, mitt romney today with an op-ed in the "wall street journal" going to give this foreign policy speech next week as the same time the campaign is saying they're not going to change their day to day message. you have them basically not really making a decision between either of those two courses. i think it comes back to
years ago. >> four years ago, barack obama and john mccain faced off in a first debate that was nearly canceled when the republican suspended his campaign because of the meltdown on wall street. the day of their second debate, the stock market dropped 500 points. >> now the troubles are spreading. the market took another dive today, and there are some big names now involved. >> reporter: the day of the third debate, the stock market dropped over 300 points. >> fear that the country could be entering in one of the most serious recessions in decades, led by wall street's 700-point sell-off. >> now four years later, the president who faced john mccain in those debates and beat him faces his new republican challenger for the first time. >> i'm looking forward to head to head. >> an mirror image of '08, a campaign is chaotic mash. new issues, new controversies, every day. the polls are bad for romney and good for obama in the swing states. but the national numbers are as tight as they get. the primaries are over, the conventions are over, but the debates, the home stretch, starts right now.
as president obama. he's been vice president in for four years. had a lot of things going. been a long time since he's debated. paul ryan has been in the cut and thrust of congress, to be better prepared. however, ryan is in the shoes president obama was in last night and the expectations are high for ryan. i think most people feel that paul ryan will walk joe biden's dog in this debate, and that's a down for him. i would venture that the vice presidential debate may get the largest audience of any vice presidential de debate we've had so far. >> in 2008 with the introduction of sarah palin was the first time the vice presidential debate was ever the highest 01:39:43:rate ed debate. we have this again. >> governor romney, last night, people say he mangled the truth to put it gently. the obama campaign -- they did a smart thing today. got up bright and early this morning realizing they took a loss last night and began pointing out where governor romney had not said what he said before, had not stuck to the truth. however, we learned again last night, if we needed reminding, that there's powe
night. when mitt romney beat president obama in last night's televised debate. so the first televised presidential debate that we had was in 1960. here are all of the other years that we have since have televised presidential debates. every four years now we have these debates on tv. the only years, though, so these are all the years, right, right? the only years, though, in which you had an incumbent president running against a challenger in all of the years we've had presidential debates on tv are these years. so in terms of understanding the historical context of what happened last night when mitt romney beat president obama in this first debate, this is the universe of like things to compare it to. this is how to understand it in terms of american political history. it's only these years right here. that's it. now, by definition, you never have an incumbent president in this situation more than once. presidents can only serve two terms so there's only one opportunity when they carry into that debate, when they're running for re-election, they carry into that debate the gravitas of
romney was seven months ago and the last debate that barack obama had was four years ago. and the people he's used to sparring with are reporters. >> how did he prepare? how did the president prepare for this? >> we got 45 minutes in before we got a ryan budget mentioned. mitt romney made the choice to put ryan on the ticket. when we look at where the polls started to separate before the convention, right around when ryan was put on the ticket. when do the numbers on medicare and the polling start to go upside down for the republicans? when ryan is put on the ticket. yet we get 45 minutes through the debate before paul ryan is mentioned. he's the incarnation of the modern republican party which will inherit the power that you give to mitt romney since they will be governing from the house most likely. that is the key thing to remind people there is a governing of the republican party that already exists. it's like nailing gel oto the wall. no. you are tied to an actual institutional govern body which actually has a record, which actually is going to propose and vote for things that you a
us, diana. >>> six in ten asian american voters voted for president obama in 2008, but this year with the economy front and center, some are reconsidering. so if just a small percent of the country's asian population go with governor mitt romney, could they actually swing the election? it depends on which state wii talking about. msnbc's richard lui has more from the critical swing state of virginia. >> i just don't know who's going to be able to kind of get to that middle ground, when the time comes. >> reporter: yet his vote could count most. it's because he is in virginia, one of a hand full of states up for grabs in the election. and as is said, as swing states go, so goes the election. 100% of them have been negative. >> reporter: in haresh's case, he voted for president obama in 2008, the first year a democrat won virginia since 1964. another reason his vote is valuable to candidate, he's asian american, and because of that, four times more likely to be an undecided voter, according to a new study. that group also makes campaign donations at a rate only second to whites. >>
, the first time in five years that barack obama and mitt romney are going to be face-to-face in what the local newspaper is headlining as the duel in denver. joining me now for our daily fix, chris cizilla, msnbc contributor and managing editor of post politics.com. first of all, this, the big face-off, let's talk about the state of the race. we have new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll numbers showing a slight tightening in the race. fou looks as though mitt romney is in the national polls slightly narrowing the gap. other problems within those numbers, problems for romney. >> yeah. i mean first of all let me say i love duel in denver. i'm a big fan of that one. i think andrea, look, last week there was a ton of polling both in swing states and nationally that i think caught barack obama sort of at the apex of the bounce he had received post-convention and post a couple bad weeks for mitt romney and mitt romney at the nader of where he could possibly be in a race where you have the country as divided as it is. the fact that things are moving back towards at the national level, 49
been that the the democrats and particularly obama has had four years to make it better and he failed to do so and the numbers prove it. if things get better in october, that undermines a fundamental aspect of a campaign strategy, and i am not questioning whether or not mitt romney, a whole series of republicans want the economy better. right now it's strategically better if the economy is worse, given that argument for election. >> i don't know how you argue that 114,000 jobs is the economy getting a lot better. >> i'm not saying there is. i'm saying there would be a desire for this to remain and look worse in the weeks leading up. >> let's go to john harwood for the last word on this. >> every out party before an election wants voters to feel things are going badly so they vote for change. that's how it is whether republicans are in power or democrats are in power. >> thank you very much. i greatly appreciate your insight. cleaning up the mess. it took three weeks but governor romney backtracked on the 47% comments. >> now and then you say something that doesn't come out right. in t
and ron reagan, both msnbc analysts. this is a tough blog by a guy who has been very strong for obama over the years. andrew sullivan of the daily beast. he wrote this last night, basically just at the end of the debate. this was a dissaster for the president for the key people he needs to reach. his effete wonkish lectures may have jolted a lot of independents into giving romney a second look. obama tyke looked tired, even bored. he kept looking down. he wasn't there. the person with authority on that stage was romney. offered by one of the lamest moderators ever and seized with relish. this was romney the salesman and my gut tells me he sold a few voters on a change tonight. it's beyond depressing, but it's true. gentlemen, that's a tough assessment. it's matched by this, i'm showing you one of the strongest headlines, a full banner basically giving it completely to romney last night. governor rendell, you have been in a lot of tough debates. i don't know what you thought. i guess i'm known as an obama supporter and i certainly wanted him to do well last night, and yet i don't get it. i
? >> let me give you the answer. first of all, for two years, president obama cut support of u.s. assistance for democracy and civil society in egypt, so those who went to tahrir square saw that the united states wasn't on their side. that was a mistake. two, when the revolt began, joe biden said that mubarak was a democrat. the secretary of state said we're with him and he's a reformer. by the time the u.s. took its position, the demonstrators had been in tahrir square for days, there had been police crackdowns and when we said it was time for mubarak to go, the the reformers had been begun to be crowded out by extremist elements. yes, there's a big difference between anticipating and leading versus not leading, reacting, cutting our traditional support for democracy. that's the record of president obama and that contributed to the mess. >> so, you're saying he should have pushed mubarak out, but done it differently or he shouldn't have done that? >> the people in a country, reagan once said that we should support the march of freedom, but we can't determine its pace. the peop
in this country for a time period that's more easily measured in centuries than in individual years. again, not exactly a bomb shell. now they are dousing themselves in gasoline and hitting the fire alarm all over again over a video of president obama speaking as a candidate in 2007. in this video, which the right is very excited about tonight but which has been available online since 2007, mr. obama, then a candidate, acknowledges the presence in the room of his former pastor from chicago, reverend jeremiah wright. steve smith was part of the strategic team in 2008 when they decided that they would not attack barack obama based on his pastor. but this is a different year and it is telling that the right thinks what will unravel the presidency of barack obama and make him a one-term president, the thing that will make people vote for mitt romney is not something from the obama presidency but rather something secret from barack obama's past. something secret people didn't know about him before. if they only knew this about him, his reelection would be impossible. that's the one side of this
on me. for at least a few years now, we have been told how president obama is just alienating wall street. billionaires have got it so rough. they are going to turn against him to make sure president obama is not reelected. now that the election is just 35 days away and president obama, you got to admit looks pretty strong in the polls, some of these billionaires are beginning to whine a little bit. they don't like the environment of what's happening. here's sam zell, listen to this. >> how the, quote, 1% or the 10%, the top earners moved ahead of everybody. i wonder if there's any correlation between while they were moving ahead, the rest of the government was subsidizing, subsidizing more and more people. i think they are disincentive vised by if you don't pay for health care, that's another thing you don't have to worry about. >> he sounds like he could be sitting at the mitt romney fundraiser. his disdain of the 47% is the same as mitt romney's. he's not the only algart complaining. leon cooperman, this hedge fund manager and former obama supporter, said this, you know, the lar
that he found in just four years. when president barack obama took office, the economy was in free fall, it had just shrunk. we were losing 750,000 jobs a month. the are we doing better today? the answer is yes. >> and we should say, we are actually back now to where we were when obama got in office. but do you think bill clinton is right there? did obama do all that could have been done? >> well, i think he did all that could have been done that the congress would let him do. with hind sight, the stimulus package should have been bigger, but at the time it was put together, there were two things that were constraining it. one was we didn't know how bad the economy was at that moment. it was still getting worse. but nobody knew how much worse it was getting. and the other was sort of sticker shock. it was a big number and the congress wasn't prepared to vote more than that. and didn't want to come back to it. >> and of course, subsequently republicans in congress refused to vote for the american jobs act. alice and sam stein thank you for joining me tonight. and thank you for giving us
that they would not attack barack obama based on his pastor. but this is a different year and it is telling that the right thinks what will unravel the presidency of barack obama and make him a one-term president, the thing that will make people vote for mitt romney is not something from the obama presidency but rather something secret from barack obama's past. something secret people didn't know about him before. if they only knew this about him, his reelection would be impossible. that's the one side of this bomb shell tape. from the other side, this year's bomb shell tapes of paul ryan and mitt romney have not been about some secret past for these men. unless you count paul ryan pledging his allegiance back in 2 2005. the tape that's made a big impact against the republican side this year has been tape of things that paul ryan and mitt romney have been saying within the past year. specifically when they are talking to conservative audiences. so two weeks ago, david corn and ryan grim at "the huffington post" posted video of romney talking to wealthy donors in florida. deriding the 47% of
the past four years. and what a second term obama administration would look like. and what it would do for middle class americans all over this country. i think we achieved that. i think what we didn't expect is for that mitt romney to show up. i know mitt romney is an aggressive debater, a great debater, in his own words. was one of the things he used as a credential to becoming the republican nominee. we didn't expect him to be aggressively dishonest last night. >> was the president taken by the number of lies? >> well, you know, i think that, you know, today looking back at last night, you saw what the president did on the stump today. called mitt romney out for what he did last night. not just about his $5 trillion tax cut but a number of other things. and, you know, we'll continue doing that. as i was listening to your piece coming into me, and you talked about our ad. we went on the air today. we're going to continue doing it pointing out all the things mitt romney said last night that are basically not true. it's almost as if he forgot what the last six years of running for pres
,000 a year. so we'll see some of that from him. it's interesting to see what the president might do to respond to that $17,000 cap that mitt romney floated. i am sure that the obama campaign has been thinking about thinking up an answer that he can answer on that. i've also heard that the president is likely to get more specific on his own tax plan for a second term tonight as well. we should see some more from him tonight on that, too. >> cynthia, let me run down -- the debate is going to be 90 minutes long. six 15-minutes long. three on the economy, one on health care, one on the role of government, and one on governing. who does this format favor, in your opinion? >> well, i think that tomorrow we're going to be listening to pundits say that mitt romney did what he needed to do. it favors the challenger just by putting him on the same stage with the president. however, mitt romney has several obstacles to overcome. not only does he have to give specifics as we've been talking about, he has to appear warm. he has to seem empathetic. he has to connect with the voters he hasn't conn
than the unemployment rate when barack obama took office in 2009 of january of that year right out of the bat. today where's the dow? the dow-jones industrial average hit a five-year high. stocks are doing better than they were before the economic crash of 2008. more people are working today than when president obama was inaugurated. you know, when they were having the secret meeting about how they were going to make him fail. it's not all sunshine and roses out there. we'll admit that. the jobs situation in america has improved under president obama's watch. now of course unless you are a hard core right winger. according to them, these unemployment numbers, you know what they are? they are a conspiracy. they're a conspiracy to re-elect the president of the united states. >> there is widespread mistrust of this report and these numbers because there are clear contradictions. >> i guarantee when this is revised the unemployment rate would be back above 8%. >> oh, how convenient that the rate drops below 8% for the first time in 43 months five weeks before an election. >> i told you
years. now it's come back to bite them. they hate it. they can't stand it. it's success under obama. and if it works for them, well, it's the truth. if it works against them you know what it is? a conspiracy, a lie. you know what it is? it is pathetic. you want a real conspiracy? i'm going to give you a real conspiracy here tonight. an entire political party in washington, d.c. you know this. has spent nearly four years making sure no legislative action was taken on jobs. when president obama approached them with solutions to get people back to work, they rejected them immediately, said no. they even said in public, their number one goal was to make barack obama a one-term president. when they executed this strategy, what did they do? they damaged the country. do you call that economic patriotism? i don't. this is what a job growth has looked like over the past three years. now take a look at what happens when we see these split between the private sector jobs and the public sector jobs. it's pretty obvious. the losses in the public sector, what were they? a drag on job growth. we l
's tax proposal would cost $4.8 "t," trillion, over ten years. the obama campaign has already come out with an ad hitting romney on his $5 trillion lie. i'm joined tonight by david k. johnston, pulitzer prize winning columnist and author of "the fine print: how big companies use plain english to rob you blind." david k., glad to have you with us tonight. >> thank you, ed. >> after last night, do you have a better grip, a better idea of what romney's tax plan is all about? >> no, because he's never been clear about it. as you showed, he's, on the one hand, saying i'll cut everybody's rates 20% which works out over the next 10 years to about $5 trillion. and he says i'll maintain current rates. now, if he's going to not have a $5 trillion tax cut it imply, he sort of hinted at this last night, that he's going take away the deductions you are. he's not going to succeed in reducing the problem by getting rid of big bird, the money to pbs isn't even chicken feed much less big bird feed. the only other project of any size he's identified is amtrak, $1.4 billion a year. we're talking trillion
are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. >>> if your daughter was one year old when president obama was inaugurated, she just started kindergarten. america is experiencing the worst economic -- >> so that's just one of the new ads we're seeing hit the air waives. this one from the pro-romney super pac. we've seen it emerge as republicans try to appeal to women by using children in ads. as in this case, you saw them use a mother's fear to drive a wedge between what could be her support for the president. we bring in linda kaplan who worked on the clinton/gore ad team. we all perk up when we see kids being featured in political ads talking about their futures. are they going to be effective in wooing women to pay attention to what the message is? >> you know, it's such an obvious ploy. and i think playing the baby card has been done and done and done. and i think unfortunately in this case, what's happening is that women see through it. you know, in advertising we say oops, your strategy is showing. and i think to be so blatantly so trying to pander with little feet to moms, i think i
is four years really enough to follow through on these promises. can all of president obama's promises he made four years ago really be done in four years? >> what do you think? is four years enough? >> i don't think so. >> reporter: and they all wish they'd had a fact checker standing by to sort through the flurry of claims and counter claims. is romney really not seeking a $5 trillion tax cut? will people be able to keep their health insurance under the president's plan? >> i always kind of approach it from they're both lying to me. so now i have to figure out which one is lying to me less and basing my decision on that. >> reporter: so i guess the question that i have that maybe you can't answer is why can't you make up your minds? >> they all said the rest of the debates are even more crucial. after watching round one, perhaps significantly change the entire race. ron allen, nbc news, denver. >> aides to mitt romney say he will spend part of today preparing for the next presidential debate, which is scheduled for october 16th. the president's team says he hasn't held any formal debate
learned to argue really well and make your points years ago. >> michelle obama and ann romney with advice for their husbands. the first lady will campaign for her husband this afternoon in nevada. meantime, ann romney campaigned in the state yesterday where she tried to appeal to women voters. that as our battleground state polling shows today that president obama has lost support. just three points down from 12 last month. however, the president still holds formidable leads among women voters in ohio and virginia. joining me now -- the sight of tonight's debate. it's great to have you here. showing president obama losing support with women voters. why do you think that might be the the case there? >> i think that women voters are looking at mitt romney's policies and they're realizing that they're not good for women. economic policies. the health care policies. family planning. in florida, of course, medicare's a big issue. women really want to look at candidates that are going to support issues that help women and families and that's what's going on. i think in florida and around the co
longer than george w. bush, barack obama. these justices serve -- they don't serve for four year terms. they serve decade after decade and that's why the issue is so important. >> you gave a fascinating portrait of how similar yet different allies of president obama and john roberts swo him in and had to do the oath again. both of them had ties to chicago. both of them harvard, both of them harvard law review. i mean, it was amazing how they were like flip sides of the same coin. >> it is. they do a fascinating parallels. but the paradox of the difference is that john roberts when it comes to the constitution is the candidate of change. he's the one who wants to change the law on abortion, on civil rights, on the death penalty, on all of these areas whereas obama is much more of a cautious conservative when it comes to the course. he's the one saying, let's leave things the way they are. the law is okay the way it is. roberts is part of the generation of conservatives. ronald reagan brought them to washington who said, we have to change the law. >> i've been trying to tell everybody, i
years ago, when obama first ran for office. those details did not stop the daily caller and some others from asserting the tape would shake up the campaign. >> people ask me whether they thought raves the reason the response was so slow. i said, well, no this administration was color blind in its incompetence. but, but everyone here knows that the disaster and the poverty happened long before the hurricane hit. >> and then the "huffington post" released what they consider their own bombshell tape, showing paul ryan at what his campaign says was on open forum, this was just last year, 2011. ryan's remarks are now being compared to romney's 47% comment. >> the good news is survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center-right 70/30 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe the american idea. only 30% want the welfare state. >> and republicans are seizing on what vice president joe biden said at a campaign event in north carolina. that set off another war of words. >> how they can justify raiding taxes on the middle class that has been buried th
that animates them but we have seen that for four years. that image of obama does not have resonance with the swing voters. so romney has been pitching that to the base and he continues to talk about it and his campaign continues to put it out there. if you're talking about that in the debate you're not winning over swing voters and that's not romney's challenge at this point. >> karen finney, the columnist has said to romney go big. i really, you know, i'm struggling. i can't really imagine what going big would look like for mitt romney in the debate. i mean, seriously. what would he say that would be big and new in that debate? >> well, and also what would he say that would be big, new and credible in that debate. romney has two really key problems here. number one, he is, himself all over the map in terms of i'm going to, you know, repeal this. i'm going to keep that. so his trying to go big, he has to stay consistent. the other challenge he has, appealing to the base, we know what that means, we know who shows voters are. and we know the dog whistles they're going to want to hear
with it. th president can't do that much to control the economy. but four years ago obama got to run saying, they drove it into the ditch, i can drive it out. then it turns out he can't. now the next guy gets to say, i can drive it out. he also can't drive it out, but this is the ritual every four oh eight years as someone promises they are the special healer who can put their hands on the economy and make it all right again. >> i i think megan is gliding past the problem. this is an illustration of the problem. you can glide past alan west, donald trump, a lot of the people mitt romney who wants to be president has chosen to deeply associate and work with and legitimize. that tells us who he wants to be with as he chose them for the cabinet and everything else. liberals said for a long time that's an issue with how we measure this. that's in the two surveys. but the point is they are alleging another con spir p si to rile people up with lies. that's the problem. >> this is true. it's crazy to suggest anyone manage -- first of all, these are people who think everything in government
and this is a reality show where obama and romney will meet in the first time in nearly five years before their biggest audience of the campaign. the first 2008 presidential debate between the president and john mccain got seven times the audience of the highest rated 2012 republican primary debate. think about that. seven times. past debates show romney and obama have to worry about cut away shots that are less than flattering. in the past both candidates have come across as irritable, patronizing or disengaged. this was chris christie's advice to the candidates yesterday. >> what you do is go out and be yourself. and people either like it or don't. if they don't, they are going to vote for somebody else. not a tragedy. no one dies. >> finally speaking of debates, there was a barn burner last night in massachusetts where scott brown and democratic challenger elizabeth warren faced off in a debate. moderated by nbc's david gregory. it was tense from the outset. >> if you're going to comment on my record, i would at least have you refer to it -- excuse me. i'm not a student in your classroom. please let
, obama comes on stage, says 20 years ago i became the luckiest man honor they because michelle obama agreed to marry me. happy anniversary. next year we won't be celebrating in front of 40 million people. mild chuckle. romney, congratulations mr. president on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most place you could imagine here with me. it was a great line from romney, not known to be funny. >> from the start, i think he picked up. he was able to work than extraordinarily confident fashion. he came in against tight, as mr. lipton indicated he owned that moment, owned that stage. he wanted to own obama with all of those troubling consequences, and he did so, i think, because he presumed that he would tell his facts, he would tell his truth, he would do it with vigor, and you can study every master, you connect emotionally, articulate your viewpoint and people believe in perception of your command. last night he was unquestioned in terms of his supremacy. >> that was significant. while romney was freely contradicting all of the previous romneys, he was unchallenged. unchallenged by
for yourself at american.com. obama and his liberal allies, we can't afford four more years. i'm mitt romney. i approved this message. >> well, yesterday campaigning in council bluffs, iowa, vice president joe biden shot back saying the obama plan would raise taxes but not on the middle class. >> on top of the $1 trillion in spending we've already cut, we're going to ask, yes, we're going to ask the wealthy to pay more. my heartbreaks. come on. [ applause ] you know the phrase they always use, "obama and biden want to raise taxes by $1 trillion." guess what? yes, we do, in one regard. we want to let that $1 trillion tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have to bear burden of all that money going to the super wealthy. that's not a tax raise. that's called fairness where i come from. >> vice president biden, congressman paul ryan are prepping if for their own debate next thursday at center college in danville, kentucky. >>> the united nations security council is condemning the shelling by syrian forces in a turkey down that killed women and children. turkey's military responded with artille
in everything he became president. the initial result for two years awarded with declining obama approval writing, awarding with huge windfall in the midterms. it made conservatives think the rest of the country is coming to our side u in rating, the midterms explained by how bad the economy was and what we are seeing now, as the economy starts to improve a bit, most americans actually like obama, cheering for him this stuff really seems off note, i think, to the average american. >> owe mama is a divisive figure, constantly pitting one america against the other. in 2007, it was black america against a white government. and knew that he essentially is the government, he is taking that same kind of tactic and he is pitting poor america against wealthy america. the problem with this is that there are actually aggrieved groups, legitimate arguments to be made that the government has neg lengtd the concerns of black america, that our economy has not sufficiently addressed poverty, but you don't put agrieved groups and pit them against one another. that is not what a truly transcendent leader
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